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1Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Ljflglrkrkrkrir Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:53 pm

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2Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:32 pm

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They are both similar drugs but I doubt they are causing PSSD. It could be a brief cortisol spike or histamine returning to higher levels post-continuation. Maybe try something like Phosphatidylserine + Loratadine or another peripheral antihistamine?
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15913872
Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 2005 Jun;29(5):754-6.
An open-label series using loratadine for the treatment of sexual dysfunction associated with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

Aukst-Margetić B1, Margetić B.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To assess the impact of loratadine as an add-on treatment of erectile dysfunctions associated with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs).
METHODS:
Nine patients diagnosed as major depressive disorder (MDD), with erectile dysfunction associated with the administration of SSRIs, completed a 2-week trial of loratadine in the dose of 10 mg/day. The International Index of Erectile Function Five (IIEF-5) was used as an assessment measure for diagnosing the presence and severity of erectile dysfunction. The 17-item Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression (HAM-D) was administered for screening the potential impact of depressive symptoms.
RESULTS:
Baseline mean S.D.+/-IIEF-5 scores were 10.33+/-4.55 (range 5-20) and week 2 mean+/-S.D. IIEF-5 was 14.44+/-3.84 (range 10-22). Subjects had statistically significant improvement in their erectile functions on the IIEF-5 (t = -8.485; df = 8; p = 0.000) and 55% reported subjective improvement of the erectile function. No significant changes on HAM-D 17 scores were registered. Baseline mean S.D. scores were 13.66+/-2.29 (range 10-17) and week 2 mean S.D. was 13.11+/-1.96 (range 10-16) (t = 1.47; df = 8; p = 0.179).
CONCLUSION:
Our findings suggest the possible role of loratadine in the treatment of SSRI-associated sexual dysfunction. They are promising, but preliminary. Thus they should be replicated in a longer large-scale, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
PMID: 15913872 DOI: 10.1016/j.pnpbp.2005.04.007

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3Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty what more Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:00 am

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hello area thank u for ur reply so u dont fink this is pssd ? i will try the loratadin  but what more can i do ?

4Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Loratadine Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:12 am

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Loratadine i read much thate this gived ed to some pepole ? but should i try it ?

5Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:51 am

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piwomocne wrote:Loratadine i read much thate this gived ed to some pepole ? but should i try it ?

H1 antihistamines don't usually "give ED to people" its more when H2-agents are given like Cimetidine (Tagamet) and Ranitidine (Zantac) those are the players that cause issues.

Use Neuro-PS or another PS (Phophatidylserine) supplement + Loratadine. I don't think you have PSSD, I think this is a lighter neurological burden because of discontinuation.

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6Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:15 am

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piwomocne wrote:Loratadine i read much thate this gived ed to some pepole ? but should i try it ?

H1 antihistamines don't usually "give ED to people" its more when H2-agents are given like Cimetidine (Tagamet) and Ranitidine (Zantac) those  are the players that cause issues.

Use Neuro-PS or another PS (Phophatidylserine) supplement + Loratadine. I don't think you have PSSD, I think this is a lighter neurological burden because of discontinuation.

aha okey so if i go back to mirtazapine ? what happens will my libido go back ?

ore should i keep not taking anything and this should be cured from it own ? if its not pssd . should this go away ? i will try the 2 suppliments u reckommended plus cholin and insitoil

7Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:19 am

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(Phophatidylserine) supplement + Loratadine

how long before this should give effekt ? u fink if my problem isent pssd it should be easier to cure ? rite but rite now the libido still 0 and eratcion disfunction i cant live with it

8Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:45 am

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piwomocne wrote:(Phophatidylserine) supplement + Loratadine

how long before this should give effekt ? u fink if my problem isent pssd it should be easier to cure ? rite but rite now the libido still 0 and eratcion disfunction i cant live with it

Probably a week. You could go back on the medication - but if you want to be drug-free then try to wait it out.

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9Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:47 am

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Also you should remember that this kind of issue needs Patience and most of all, Stress Relief. So keep yourself as stress free as possible.

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10Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:03 am

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Area-1255 wrote:Also you should remember that this kind of issue needs Patience and most of all, Stress Relief. So keep yourself as stress free as possible.

okey thank you for ur reaply . if i go back to mirtazapine how long before i could get eractions agine u fink ? but in some cases i read mirtazapine can lower sex drive :/

11Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:15 pm

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piwomocne wrote:
Area-1255 wrote:Also you should remember that this kind of issue needs Patience and most of all, Stress Relief. So keep yourself as stress free as possible.

okey thank you for ur reaply . if i go back to mirtazapine how long before i could get eractions agine u fink ? but in some cases i read mirtazapine can lower sex drive :/

Not sure. Maybe a week.

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12Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:00 pm

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piwomocne wrote:
Area-1255 wrote:Also you should remember that this kind of issue needs Patience and most of all, Stress Relief. So keep yourself as stress free as possible.

okey thank you for ur reaply . if i go back to mirtazapine how long before i could get eractions agine u fink ? but in some cases i read mirtazapine can lower sex drive :/

Not sure. Maybe a week.

i forgot i alredy tried to start with mirtazapine , to see if it goes away and there was no improvment in libido. i took it 1 and half week 30 mg
and no libido only morning eractions was betther but still weak

13Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:08 pm

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piwomocne wrote:
Area-1255 wrote:
piwomocne wrote:
Area-1255 wrote:Also you should remember that this kind of issue needs Patience and most of all, Stress Relief. So keep yourself as stress free as possible.

okey thank you for ur reaply . if i go back to mirtazapine how long before i could get eractions agine u fink ? but in some cases i read mirtazapine can lower sex drive :/

Not sure. Maybe a week.

i forgot i alredy tried to start with mirtazapine , to see if it goes away and there was no improvment in libido. i took it 1 and half week 30 mg
and no libido only morning eractions was betther but still weak

You could try Metergoline instead, its usually a much better drug.
--> Thread/Forum : https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/metergoline-serotonin-antagonist-dopamine-agonist-for-r-d.12908/
--> Wiki : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metergoline
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14Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty hia Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:59 am

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aha why u fink it will help ? i never heard of it

15Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:07 pm

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piwomocne wrote:aha why u fink it will help ? i never heard of it

Because it does everything Mirtazapine does AND more.

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16Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:31 pm

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hello still the same problems i tried go back to mirtazapine and i noticed i got morning wood , then i stopt taking it agine , and morning wood gone what can i do to get back my libido adn sexual function i tried the 2 stuff above u told me dident work for me

17Ljflglrkrkrkrir Empty Re: Ljflglrkrkrkrir Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:25 pm

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piwomocne wrote:hello still the same problems i tried go back to mirtazapine and i noticed i got morning wood , then i stopt taking it agine , and morning wood gone what can i do to get back my libido adn sexual function i tried the 2 stuff above u told me dident work for me

How much Metergoline did you use and how much Mirtazapine did you go back to? What else have you tried? Have you tried simple stuff?
Like L-Arginine, L-Citrulline, high-dose Vitamin C & Kyolic?
Try adding those with the mirtazapine.

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